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Patches of dye washing out quicker than the rest..

 
(@Livvv)
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Hello πŸ™‚ First of all, I apologise if this has been asked before, I did a quick search but didn't really find much.

I currently have purple, turquoise and black hair in layers (purple on top). I was previously bright orange but bleached it to a lighter yellow and dyed over it. There were two patches of purple (see picture below) that didn't seem to take the dye very well, so I did a bleach bath (after reading about them on here!) on those two sections and they seemed to go very light and white blonde, so again I dyed the purple over them.

But I've just washed my hair for the first time since dying and these same patches have washed out almost completely, whereas the rest of my hair is still nice and bright.. I'm so confused :S Why are these two random patches washing out straight away and not taking the dye very well?

Anything I can do to get them to keep the dye and go as bright as the rest? I understand that some types of hair just don't like dye or whatever.. but why just these two patches??

Sadface.

Any help would be much appreciated!

Picture - sorry it's not the clearest but you can see the light browny/grey/purpley messy patch just behind my bow and down, it's the same on the other side.. also the patchy bit is only the middle of the hair, the roots and ends are very bright.

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Posted : April 17, 2011 8:46 pm
(@pippachainsaw)
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what dye are you using? also what shampoo? like you said sometimes dye doesn't last in certain places, this could be due to blow drying or straightening perhaps. you could put some purple dye in your conditioner and apply it to the faded area to keep it vibrant

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Posted : April 17, 2011 9:19 pm
(@Livvv)
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Thanks for the reply!
I'm using Directions Violet (and Directions Turquoise in the layer underneath which you can't really see in that photo). I was thinking of putting dye in my conditioner but I don't want to taint the turquoise πŸ™ Especially because I have to wash my hair over the side of the bath (we don't have a shower) most days so the turquoise layer is sort of on top when I wash, if that makes sense.

Do you think it's worth trying to lighten it once more or is it a lost cause??

Getting close to just chopping off the crappy bits, haha! If only it was that simple..

Edit - Forgot to say, I use Aussie 'Take the Heat' Shampoo, Conditioner and Heat Protecting spray.

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Posted : April 17, 2011 9:23 pm
(@pippachainsaw)
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may i sugguest plum

http://www.hairdyegallery.co.uk/dir-plum.html

it starts off dark but lasts forever! that way you don't need to lighten or cut off the ba bits =)

check to see if the shampoo contains SLS, cos that strips semi dye

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Posted : April 17, 2011 9:37 pm
(@hamstaoftragedy)
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Without having seen or felt the exact condition of your hair it's not easy to give a diagnose, buuuutttt....

... it's possible that around these parts the cuticle is too damaged to give the dye some hold. When the cuticle doesn't lie flat enough around the hair shaft any more (or when it's completely broken off) there is nothing left where dye molecules can "claw" on. They just fall off.

So I would say:
Try to (re-)condition your hair as good as possible and with silicone free products. No bleaching, no flat irons. After washing rinse it with cold water and diluted vinegar or lemon juice. Orange juice is said to work, too, and smells lovely. πŸ˜‰ 1 Tbsp. on 2 pints of water should do. This makes those little cuticles cuddle together. πŸ˜‰

Pippa: *snort* Plum cupcake pasties?  ;D

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Posted : April 17, 2011 9:38 pm
(@Livvv)
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Pippachainsaw.. wrong link mebbe? πŸ˜€ Nice tassels! If all else fails I'll try plum, I like the sound of it lasting forever! I'm just very anti-dark colours after spending so long getting from black to where I am now (over a few years). But like you say, it'll fade.. hmmm *thinks*

Hamsta, how long should I keep up the orange juice/vinegar/lemon juice rinsing? πŸ™‚ Also, cuddling cuticles = <3

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Posted : April 17, 2011 9:42 pm
(@hamstaoftragedy)
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You can keep it up as long as you wish.
I heard of people who do it consequently after each and every wash, as it balances the PH, adds shine to the hair and kind of locks conditioning products.

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Posted : April 17, 2011 9:47 pm
(@Livvv)
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Okays, thanks, I'll try that πŸ™‚

I just checked my shampoo and it contains Silica, is that what I should be avoiding? What does SLS stand for, also?

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Posted : April 17, 2011 9:49 pm
(@pippachainsaw)
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*blushes* i was sending that link to gothicle, lolz. but if ou guys wanna buy me a burffday pressie i want them please. lolz. amended the link

sodium lauryl sulfate is what SLS stands for. for fixing your hair, this stuff is amazing

http://www.hairdyeforum.com/index.php?topic=1320.0

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Posted : April 17, 2011 9:56 pm
(@hamstaoftragedy)
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Silica is nothing bad, nay. It's just silicon (without -e) dioxide.

SLS is sodium lauryl sulfate. It's a detergent what makes the shampoo clean your hair and produce a nice lather. However, many people consider it as rather damaging...

What you should watch out for are the "-cone" ingredients, such as Cetearyl methicone, Cetyl Dimethicone, Cyclomethicone, Dimethicone, Dimethiconol, Stearyl Dimethicone and Trimethylsilylamodimethicone, as those are the non-watersoluble silicones. When used too often, they can cause a buildup around the hair and scalp.
This hinders the good stuff from working and doesn't allow moisture to reach the hair, so underneath the silicone layer it will dry out and become brittle and *meeeeh*. A buildup on the scalp can cause nastinesses like a sebum overproduction and dandruff.

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Posted : April 17, 2011 10:05 pm
(@AStokes)
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If it helps, silica is the mineral sand and quartz are made out of. πŸ™‚

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Posted : April 17, 2011 10:06 pm
(@Livvv)
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I tried the orange juice wash today and I haven't noticed any difference in the condition of my hair, but I'm going to keep it up for a week or two and see if anything happens πŸ™‚ At least it smells nice! πŸ˜€

Keep forgetting to check my shampoo ingredients! I'm lazyyy.

On the plus side I redyed my turquoise layer and it's loooovely <3

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Posted : April 18, 2011 4:23 pm