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New growth not matching midshaft-ends

 
(@hairgirl90)
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Client: She bleached herself, so its severely damaged, but we did some Redken chem shots and shes been using redken anti snap to help heal. New growth is about 3 inches long, NL 7. The midshaft-ends is about a 10. We put Pravana Violet on her which (in my experience) normally brings you down to a 5/6 so I figured we didnt need to lighten her roots since she is terrified of any furthur bleaching and/or damage from her at home bleach job.

Problem: the midshaft-ends took it quite well, but the roots only took a slight violet tone to it. She said she liked it, but came back in a week and the new growth had washed out completely but ms-ends were still extremely vibrant.

What I have done: I clarified the roots, dried and put violet only on her roots, stuck her under a dryer for 20 minutes than put the color through the rest of the hair, an extra 30 minutes. Rinsed, dried, same exact problem from last time.

Bleaching her roots, even a heavy foil, is my last resort. Does anyone know of any method I can do before I bleach the new growth to get her new growth to grab the violet? I understand different levels are going to produce different levels of violet as it fades, which she didnt mind, but the problem is its barely grabbing it at all

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Posted : August 11, 2014 2:01 pm
(@janineb)
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Pravana dyes, and other direct dyes, need some 'damage' to rough up the hair. It just doesn't stick to virgin hair well at all.

You could try a 5-10 minute bleach bath. It'll cause hardly any damage but enough to help out. I would suggest pre-softening with peroxide, but if she has that much damage the bleach bath will be easier to control on just her roots.

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Posted : August 11, 2014 2:12 pm
(@marthamagic)
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I know she doesn't want to bleach but surely if the roots are virgin, one bleach without overlapping the previously bleached hair won't cause much damage if it's done extremely carefully, especially if you're using the redken anti snap.

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Posted : August 11, 2014 2:32 pm
(@hairgirl90)
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I see what you guys are saying, ill try a bleach bath when she comes in next. Thanks guys!

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Posted : August 11, 2014 3:02 pm
(@sexyback)
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I'd avoid a bleach bath personally if the lengths and ends are already over processed. Janines idea of pre softening is a good one, if that's not enough I'd look at colouring the roots with a weak bleach - even just 10 vol, avoiding the processes hair. You don't get that precision with bleach bathing

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Posted : August 11, 2014 7:02 pm
(@janineb)
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I mean a bleach bath just on the roots and treating it as you would bleach, with a brush! If you make it a teeny bit thicker it's fine. Nothing on the mid lengths, there's no point πŸ™‚

I think pre-softening would be the nightmare as there's no way to control it.

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Posted : August 11, 2014 7:06 pm
(@sexyback)
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^ yep I completely agree

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Posted : August 11, 2014 8:49 pm
(@Wicked Pixie)
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Why would pre-softening be such a nightmare? Just apply the peroxide to the root area as you would the bleach bath.

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Posted : August 12, 2014 8:20 pm
(@janineb)
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Well, because it's so runny. It'll run down the hair as it's so liquid. Even cream peroxide is likely to run and so end up on the damaged parts. If if were the ends it were going on, job done.

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Posted : August 12, 2014 8:25 pm
(@Wicked Pixie)
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I used to pre-soften for years before i started bleaching again. I honestly didn't have any issues with it running or not staying on my roots.

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Posted : August 12, 2014 8:39 pm
(@janineb)
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Well,obviously it's up to hairgirl90, but personally I'd only risk it on undamaged hair. I just don't think you can guarantee it's not going to run.

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Posted : August 12, 2014 8:42 pm
(@Wicked Pixie)
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I would worry more about the bleach bath overlapping the damaged areas than some plain peroxide personally. But like you say, it is up to the OP what she decides to do with her client.

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Posted : August 12, 2014 9:13 pm
(@janineb)
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It's all kinda risky πŸ™‚

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Posted : August 12, 2014 9:19 pm
(@Wicked Pixie)
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Lol true!

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Posted : August 12, 2014 9:30 pm