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Looking for that "perfect red"

 
(@littleRED26)
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Hi folks! I've been coloring my hair red for years. I occasionally go brown for winter but I always go back to some shade of red. Fire engine red, maroony burgandy almost black, violent purpley red, auburn, etc. The one shade I've never been able to get, though, is a "ginger red". My fiance really likes red hair and has asked me to go ginger once or twice, but when I've tried it's never turned out right.I've used box colors and the colors you can get at Sally's or Mally's. This is really close to the color I want:

I don't bleach my hair, however, I did just Color Oops it tonight. It's wrapped in a shower cap slathered in coconut oil and Cantu deep conditioner. It'll leave it alone for a couple weeks to let it heal before attempting to dye it again. If you aren't familiar with the "trademark" shade Color Oops leaves most hair, here's mine right now in the attachment below. The ends are a tad bit darker but that always happens.

Does anyone have any ideas of how I can get that perfect red? The girl in the picture is Alex Good, a youtuber, and she says she mixes Ion Brilliance 6R  and 7RC. Should I do a filler first? Or try a different color all together? Any tips would be really appreciated. I'm tired of chasing this color and nver getting it.

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Posted : January 20, 2016 9:24 am
(@janineb)
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One thing about that photo. You'll never get quite the intensity of colour that it has in that photo. The colour saturation has been boosted and likely other brightness and contrast fiddled with. This makes the kind of gorgeous colour that is actually impossible. We've seen it MANY time here, people chasing an impossible colour.

What you have now, though wet obviously, looks almost identical to the photo. Your's looks a little darker, but being wet, it will look darker. That classic colour remover colour is almost perfect, it just needs a bit of a tweak. If it's a bit darker than you want, I'd suggest a bleach bath to take the level down a shade or two. Then use an Adore shade http://www.beeunique.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=151&zenid=2c0f35cc38d815e164ea202cbcddc1d8 you can mix two or more to make the exact shade. It's far better than using permanent colours and actually lasts longer, meaning topping up less often and no extra damage.

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Posted : January 20, 2016 10:13 am
(@littleRED26)
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I'm really liking that Cajun Spice color! Maybe mixed with a little Orange Blaze? The color I have now is similar, but it's very yellow and I definitely don't want it yellow. Luckily I work night shift so nobody'll see it until I can recolor it lol.

What's your reasoning, if you don't mind me asking, on it lasting longer? I don't think I've ever used anything except for permanent dye, like, ever. So I'm curious. I'm also wary  of trying a new brand. Also, I can't use Color Oops to take these colors out can I, especially if I go an unnatural color? I'd really rather stay away from bleach. My curly hair can't take it.

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Posted : January 20, 2016 10:35 am
(@janineb)
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It's the size of the molecules. Permanent red molecules are larger so don't penetrate deeply and then slip out easily. As most permanent red dyes are made using a brown base you end up with a dull colour. The thing is, even if semi's (true semi's with no peroxide) don't last longer, the fact that you can top them up frequently with NO damage is a huge plus.

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Posted : January 20, 2016 10:53 am
(@littleRED26)
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I see what you're saying. Hmm. Yeah, I think I'm going to just let my hair chill for the rest of the month and maybe an extra week before I bother doing anything to it. But I do really think I'm going to like that Cajun Spice color with a little Orange Blaze. I think that'll be my next "project." I really wanted to go purple, but my work is throwing a fit about it so I'll just go back to a red for now.

Thanks for the information and advice; glad I found this site.

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Posted : January 20, 2016 10:55 am
(@janineb)
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I forgot to say, this is fairly specific to red hair dyes!

I can't really advise on the mix of colours as I've not been a natural colour for years! I have a feeling that mix might push it too much to the yellow side if your base is yellowy. You probably will want to bleach bath so it's a bit lighter and that should help with the yellow on the base (though it will look more yellow before you put the colour on, but  that will be corrected with the dye). I think you might want to add a teensy bit of a blue or purple to counteract the yellow tones? It wouldn't show in the end, but still I'm not sure, I'm typing off the top of my head! Then maybe a little red rather than a brighter orange.

Worth thinking about and someone that has used the reds will have more advice.

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Posted : January 20, 2016 11:08 am
(@littleRED26)
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I'll ask around, after all I'm not planning on doing anything anytime soon. It's dryish now and it kind of looks like a dark strawberry blonde. If it weren't so uneven and patchy I might even want to keep it.

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Posted : January 20, 2016 11:23 am
(@lauralei13)
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I've had some nice ginger colours from mixing varying proportions of Adore Cajun Spice and Paprika - obviously it'll depend on how it looks over your base colour and how much of the darker shade you add, I used to go quite heavy on the Paprika (and mine was directly over bright red) so it was darker than the shade you're looking for but faded to a lovely ginger.

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Posted : February 2, 2016 1:07 pm
(@stingle)
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I have used Adore Parika and Cajun spice in the past and they are lovely temporary colours.  For a lovely red that is similar that never fades you could consider henna.  But be sure you want to keep red for a very long time as it doesn't really ever go away!  If you do consider it only buy pure henna powder - the body quality henna like they use to do henna tattoos.  I used to order mine online as I could never find pure henna in the local shops.  Even the henna in the health shops doesn't appear to be pure and you want to avoid metallic salts. I tried Lush a few times but the bars of henna are messy, a lot of extra work compared to pure henna powder and the colour wasn't very significant.  Henna coats your hair and is translucent, however it is progressive and doesn't fade.  So with each application it deepens and darkens.  I had a problem with it getting too dark but that was because with each application I'd do my entire head - if starting over again I would probably just do the roots each time. 
It is also non-damaging and makes your hair shiny.  Some people say it relaxes natural curl in their hair, I have naturally wavy curly hair and it didn't really reduce the curl, if anything it made it smoother and shinier but it kept the curl just fine.
I am now trying to remove my henna only because I'm tired of it but not having much luck.  The red really is here to stay unless I want to cut it all off (but I won't!) 

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Posted : March 1, 2016 10:55 pm