Hello!
So recently I have bought L'oreal Platinium Ammonia Free Lightening Paste. Has anyone had experience with this?
What would be the best ratio for mixing? I have never used professional products before and I am very cautious because I have read reviews online that there is a special way of mixing this bleach, is that true?
I have also bought L'oreal Blond Studio 6 % 20 Developer.
My current hair color is light blonde about Level 9 (I dyed it before or lightened but never used bleach paste/powder) but the color I want is white. My natural hair color is dark blonde.
My plant is to use the paste and maybe tone them later, depending on the result. Is it okay to mix Directions white toner with Loreal developer?
Also would it be okay to go over all my hair or should I only do roots and just tone the rest of them? My hair color is already very light blonde, not sure if I want to do all my hair. I know you don't bleach white hair, you tone it but it's been some time since I have lightened them and the color doesn't look that good anymore.
If anyone could help, I would very much appreciate it. Thank you very much!
I've not heard of it, so I can't answer I'm afraid.
But...
"Is it okay to mix Directions white toner with Loreal developer?"
No! Definitely not. It's not a toner you use developer with at all.
If your hair is already very light blonde, don't bleach it again. Just do your roots and then, if you really need to, bleach bath the lengths. Hair doesn't gain back colour though. It can get stained and previously used toner can fade, but neither are to be fixed with bleach (staining sometimes can be, but only ever as a last resort). You probably just need to tone the rest of your hair along with the roots.
I've not heard of it, so I can't answer I'm afraid.
But...
"Is it okay to mix Directions white toner with Loreal developer?"
No! Definitely not. It's not a toner you use developer with at all.
If your hair is already very light blonde, don't bleach it again. Just do your roots and then, if you really need to, bleach bath the lengths. Hair doesn't gain back colour though. It can get stained and previously used toner can fade, but neither are to be fixed with bleach (staining sometimes can be, but only ever as a last resort). You probably just need to tone the rest of your hair along with the roots.
I have tried toning them but they are not the color I want. I have never really bleached my hair just lightened before. I should have just started with bleaching virgin hair but now everything is messed up.
I see, I wanted to mix toner and developer because I thought it would be less damaging than actually bleaching them.
I guess I will start with the roots and then leave it on rest of my hair for a short period of time.
Thank you for answering!
Ok, back up a second. Can you post a photo of your hair as it is now? Very light blonde is generally light enough to tone, so maybe we have a miscommunication here.
You don't say what you used toner before, what was it?
What did you use to "lighten" it?
What result do you actually want? White? Ash blonde?
It really sounds like you just don't need full bleach on the rest of your hair, even for a short time. Bleach baths are a lot more gentle, if it's been lightened before, you want to treat it as gently as you can.
Ok, back up a second. Can you post a photo of your hair as it is now? Very light blonde is generally light enough to tone, so maybe we have a miscommunication here.
You don't say what you used toner before, what was it?
What did you use to "lighten" it?
What result do you actually want? White? Ash blonde?
It really sounds like you just don't need full bleach on the rest of your hair, even for a short time. Bleach baths are a lot more gentle, if it's been lightened before, you want to treat it as gently as you can.
I have used Directions white toner. It made my hair ashy but not white. The color I want is snow-white. Pure white.
I have used Loreal Very Platinum hair lift dye few times because I thought I could dye them white that way and not damage my hair with actual bleach. So recently I just got tired waiting one month and then dying and then dying again and so on and I just got bleach.
I added some photos, the hair color I have right now and the hair color I want.
Loreal Very Platinum hair lift dye is basically the same as bleach, just with a toner in it.
I've done a bit of reading on the platinum paste and it seems like people use it for balayage which suggests to me that it's really too thick to use as a normal bleach. I might be wrong though.
If that's the colour of your hair now, then yes, it is too yellow still to tone to white. I'd still suggest doing your roots to the right shade with bleach (I'd suggest blondor or blondeme as both of those are good quality) and then a couple of days later bleach bathing the rest to bring it down a couple more shades. Pulling bleach through your hair when doing your roots is really hard to do yourself.
Just so you know, you might never get white. I can't get white unless it's by accident with the right mix of colours that I've used that have faded, or my hair is just way too damaged and I've accidentally bleached too far. I know others that can't too. (it looks white on the ends in my photo, but it wasn't quite). I just have too much yellow in my hair, so it's either warm white blonde or a not great shade of grey when it's been toned. There's no in between sadly. Not everyone can do it without destroying their hair.
Loreal Very Platinum hair lift dye is basically the same as bleach, just with a toner in it.
I've done a bit of reading on the platinum paste and it seems like people use it for balayage which suggests to me that it's really too thick to use as a normal bleach. I might be wrong though.
If that's the colour of your hair now, then yes, it is too yellow still to tone to white. I'd still suggest doing your roots to the right shade with bleach (I'd suggest blondor or blondeme as both of those are good quality) and then a couple of days later bleach bathing the rest to bring it down a couple more shades. Pulling bleach through your hair when doing your roots is really hard to do yourself.
Just so you know, you might never get white. I can't get white unless it's by accident with the right mix of colours that I've used that have faded, or my hair is just way too damaged and I've accidentally bleached too far. I know others that can't too. (it looks white on the ends in my photo, but it wasn't quite). I just have too much yellow in my hair, so it's either warm white blonde or a not great shade of grey when it's been toned. There's no in between sadly. Not everyone can do it without destroying their hair.
Hmm, can you recommend a good toner that can be mixed with Loreal developer?
I have read a lot of information about this product and I purchased because a lot of people recommended it as one of the best they have ever used. It is quite expensive but the results are suppose to be good. It is very thick but it can definitely be used on roots as well, just have to mix it differently.
I have heard it is really hard. But your hair looks indeed white in the picture. Love the color! Thanks for the advice, I'll probably do a bleach bath then to minimize the damage.
No, I'm not going to recommend toners you can use with peroxide (oh, and peroxide is generally pretty generic, it's rarely anything other than peroxide so the name is only the different thing but that's just a general rule, I can't guarantee it). Toners you mix with peroxide are mostly full of ammonia. They're really harsh, especially after bleaching. Stick with the directions toner, purple shampoo or make a slightly stronger timer using a violet dye and mixing it with cheap white conditioner.
It's up to you on the bleach. Like I say, I've not used it. I probably wouldn't use it myself, I'd rather have something I know is going to have good lift. I guess this could, but the thicker it is, the harder it is to get even, which is why thicker chalky bleach is perfect for Balayage where you want it to not penetrate through the top layer of hair.
Mine was whitish there because the ends had been stained pink but I'd dyed over the top with turquoise. This fades to mint green, but as the ends were horribly damaged there, the combination of the faster faded mint and left overs of faded pink neautralised each other. It didn't feel so good!