[Sticky] Colour B4 Information

I can clearly see where your hair was virgin prior to bleaching, and where it was dyed. The orange tone you are seeing is the old dye. A colour remover (or several if the old dye is built up) is the best way to get the old dye out. It will be far less damaging, and more effective than bleaching.

This is a small forum, you don't have to ask the same question in lots of places as the same people will see them 🙂

Yes, it can work. It doesn't always work, but it is ALWAYS worth trying it to remove orange from dying. It's very hard to bleach old dye out when it's stained (which most do), so anything that can help is worth it.

So I got fed up of doing the red so much. I miss it bit hair is now dark brown and Too dark. I did use xxl live will colour b4 work on it? I just want to go aa lighter shade

I had good success removing a Live XXL dark red (that I'd been using for quite a while) with Colour B4, one application got it back to a peachy orange over which I started using Special Effects reds (first Candy Apple then Nuclear) and I found they lasted longer and faded less than the permanent dye anyway. I know some people have had trouble removing Live XXL and there are a lot of factors involved in whether it stains so I can't say for sure, but for me it worked really well.

Hi, I recently let a hairdresser turn my blond hair ginger and after first wash it's terrible. My roots are bright and the lenghts are something between brown/blond with very little red tones.  This happened last Friday and I would like to use Colour B4 extra streght (because of the red tones) to turn my hair back to blond. My natural colour is dark ash blonde, but I've been colouring it to light blonde for like three years. My hair is a little dry but not too serious, I've got freshly cut ends. The ginger colour used was Wella Illumina with 6 Vol. I tried to dye it again this Monday with Loreal Vermilion but it didn't help at all. Still the same colour.
Should I use the Colour B4 immediately or should I wait a week or two and try to wash it out bit more? Or the sooner the better? Do you think my hair will be blonde again? After the B4 I thought I'd wait about two weeks and then I'd dye it with Wella Colour touch 9/01 and 6 Vol. It is supposed to be semi permanent colour. Is this the right way to go? Or am I gonna totally burn my hair off?

Ok, so you can use the colour B4 right away, and you can use it up to 3 times so hopefully you may be able to get it back to blonde. The Colour B4 will make your hair feel dry but shouldn't damage the actual integrity of your hair, but be nice to it in between and don't abuse it with heat styling!

Is the Wella Colour Touch a grey/ silver? There are greys and silvers that you don't have to mix with developer that might be a better option (Ive not used any of those colours but if you have a look through the show off your hair section or even post asking for advice on the colour you want there will be people here who can help) as you've used developer quite a lot and quite frequently, and that will damage your hair.

Another thing to bear in mind is that you would need to rest your hair after the Colour B4 for about a week and wash it a lot before using a dye with developer, were as a direct dye could be used right away.

If you do want to go ginger again you'd be better using Adore dyes, they don't last a very long time but they will stick better over a blonde tint than a permanent ginger will, I've had exactly the same problem before in putting a ginger permanent dye over a blonde permanent dye and it just didn't take at all on the lengths!

Thank you very much!
No, wella colour touch is a semipermanent colour. But I'll look for something like a strong silver so it won't need the developer. And no, I don't wanna go back to ginger. Again, thanks a lot!

And one more thing - can I use a conditioner right after I wash the buffer out?

Permanent dyes all need peroxide. It was a powder that you mixed with warm water? It sounds like some sort of henna type thing to me. Do you have a link to that product that you used?

I'm not sure what a color remover would do for this powder stuff you used since I really don't know what it is, though it sounds like henna. The color remover will remove the demi though, leaving you with a slightly lighter, warmer version of your natural color.

My best advice would be to prepare you hair for a week or two before doing the remover by doing some deep conditioning treatments/overnight coconut oil soaks and a vinegar rinse or two, to help restore some moisture back to your hair and balance it out. I would test strand the color remover first though to see how it turns out, and to make sure your hair can handle the dryness that color removers can cause.

Works well on khaki (failed grey) hair. I became blond (but still with green shades).
I recommend to use the product more than just one time for darker/resistent colours.
It stinks like hell (even worse if you don't get rid of the product after finishing... trust me don't throw it in your bin. Throw it in the public bin ^^). I rinsed my hair for over 30min, so the smell wasn't that bad in the end (it was gone after one hairwash).

Well sorry for the short and simple question (but I didn't find an answer through the search bar):
I was wondering: Do you also get orange hair if you use colourB4 on black dyed hair (bleached pale blonde underneath it)?
I know that the orange stage always turns up in every bleaching process (between 1-7). But dark dye also contains orange right? That would mean that the process of ColourB4 would be optically the same as bleaching (except that it may not bring the blonde entirely back) --> black, orange, yellow, blonde.

It depends on the black dye. It's most often made with a brown base, but blue black has a green or blue base frequently. If it's an ash shade, there will be something like green to counteract orange. 

But bleaching and using colourB4 are not the same in any way. Bleaching natural hair and dyed hair is will have different outcomes and using colourB4 is totally different again as it's an entirely different process.

ColourB4 isn't black, orange, yellow, blonde. It's purely shrink molecules, wash molecules out. Some will sometimes be left behind because what can be best described as staining or the new colour of the natural hair after using a hairdye which has lifted the hair to the red/ginger/orange stage. So, it might remove the colour to blonde if you had blonde before dying. It might stay orange due to "staining". If you didn't have blonde hair before, it'll take you to the colour you had before, or slightly lighter/more orange due to some lightening by peroxide in the dye.

Mhmm sorry I expressed myself a little bit wrong: with optically the same I meant that it would look the same for a third person (of course the damage and process are not the same). :/
Both processes would bring through those colour stages: from black hair, to orange, to yellow then blonde if doing the process several times (either bleaching or using B4). I shortcut the colour outcomes with that arrow, I didn't mean that ColourB4 was composed of those colours...

I have natural black hair, dyed and toned pale blonde (left it for a while like this), then I covered some of the blonde with black dye (at a salon)...

But you already answered my question thanks! ;D... Either way, I would probably end up with some orange hair after one use/step (but not the same damage). As you said there will be some staining pigments. I can't escape that orange stage... well, I'll deal with it and tone the orange or re-do colour B4...

There's no telling until you do it if you'll have the orange. It doesn't have any stages of colour removal. It either removes the dye or it doesn't. It might fade gradually, but it won't go through the same stages in any way the same as bleaching. If it does happen to have a bit more orange as you do more than one process then yes, you probably have some red staining. As I said though, not all dyes have lots of red and not all will stain.

I knew what you meant, I also didn't mean that there were those colours in colourb4 and I didn't think you thought that either 🙂

hahaha Now I understand what you understood what I understood what you understood hahaha thanks anyway... I'll just go "YOLO!!!" and see what happen...  😀