[Sticky] Colour B4 Information

If you tried three times and it didn't make much difference, I'd say it's not worth it any more. Instead, I'd just carry on with other fading methods. The problem is, virgin rose stains the hair and often nothing will remove it, but especially not colour removers. You could try bleach baths once a week. That's probably the only thing that will completely remove it now.

Hiya janineb,
Thanks for your reply.
I haven't tried the decolour product yet, I am still in the planning stages.
I am trying to grow my hair and it has finally got to an acceptable length after double process snappage hell. 🙁 
I am keen to keep growing my hair, and cutting it off because of a stubborn pink is not an option I want to consider just yet! 🙁

I'm afraid it's the most likely thing though. Pinks are the worst in general. You can try more colour removers, but no matter how much I like decolour remover, it's not likely to remove pink staining.

Hey guys, great info! I tried to read as much as possible. I'm interested in a color *remover*, not stripper. I'm in the states. We have Ion Color remover that doesn't seem to have peroxide (but not positive) and Color Fix which I didn't find ingrds for. Color Opps seems to be a stripper and also has horrid reviews. A few people mentioned skipping the developer rinse...good advice or bad?? If it's worth it to order Color B4, then I would. Thoughts on that? I have time, I just dyed my hair a little but it's too dark, so when it fades next I'd like to do some color removing and then continue to bb to a lighter shade. (I know to wait in between!) I guess I really didn't bleach enough since color is more vibrant the lighter the hair and I feel it's not enough currently 😐  Thanks!

I've used Color Oops.  It's not a stripper, it is a remover - but it didn't work well on my hair (which is very porous).  One 'n Only Colorfix is a remover.  Ion Color Brilliance makes one as well.  They do usually have two components you have to mix together.  I have used one that required a neutralizing step which was the Kenra Color Correction System.  For that, they said you use the Activator Lotion from their demi line which does contain peroxide, but at such a minimal percentage that I don't think it's damaging.  I think they're looking to neutralize the effect of the color remover and close up the cuticle of the hair since it doesn't close on its own.

Awesome! Thanks so much for that info! It was so helpful! Both the color fix and Ion got similar reviews. Most of the negative ones were people turing their hair black due to coloring too quickly. 😛  Ion is a bit cheaper so I may go with that. Could I switch between two peroxide free brands? As long as they both allow more than one application of course. 🙂

I honestly don't see why you couldn't switch between the two peroxide free brands.  Several members here have recommended waiting a few days between colour removers to get the maximum benefit.  If you're going to see any reoxidization of colour, it'll happen in those first few days and then the next remover might help.  🙂

Yea I saw that part. Thanks! I also saw you noticed the most removed after the first application. I might do more depending, but who knows! 🙂

Went from black to blonde, bleached it unevenly and it turned my hair bright ginger, blonde, and left black in places.  So I bleached it a few more times using coloured blonde and it has slightly helped by covering up the white and making my hair less ginger. Now I'm thinking of using colour b4 on my hair to get rid of the remaining gingerness and the blackness.
However will this uncover the white?
Will it dry out my hair?
Will it help with the ginger or black?
My natural colour is very light brown so it clearly didn't contribute to the ginger.
As I have stated,  my hair is completely dryed out from the bleach.
Any advise would be great

However will this uncover the white?
Colour b4 will remove (hopefully) any left over black

Will it dry out my hair?
yes. If you've been bleaching this heavily I'd be inclined to either avoid doing this all together or wait atleast a week after babying your hair.

Will it help with the ginger or black
The ginger will be from where the black lifted your natural colour to deposit the black. Like i said it can remove black, not gingerm as that's your base colour now.

As I have stated,  my hair is completely dryed out from the bleach.
Any advise would be great

http://www.hairdyeforum.com/index.php?topic=1734.0
http://www.hairdyeforum.com/index.php?topic=1935.msg20308#msg20308

Avoid bleach and box dyes at all cost! Only veggie semi dyes are safe now.

my hair is completely dryed out from the bleach.
Any advise would be great

If your hair is really dried out or damaged, I would try to get some strength and moisture back to your hair before doing a color remover. I would put a semi on it temporarily and do some reconstructing and hydrating treatments like joico kpak. They aren't damaging, they dry the hair out through. So if the hair is very dry or damaged to begin with, the added dryness could cause damage. That happened to me once, my hair was just in bad shape from a lot of heat styling, a lot of it...I used a color remover and on the areas of my hair that were in bad shape, the dryness was just too much for them and they eventually just needeed to be cut off....So I'd prep your hair for it first, and maybe try a test strand first if it's still very dry.

Both the color fix and Ion got similar reviews.

I have never tried Ion's, but personally I love Colorfix. It has never failed me with permanent and demi colors, and it did help at removing some semi blue that I had. Though, fading treatments are what took out the majority of it out. I would say it did a pretty good job though, it removed more than bleaching later did! I did a bunch of fading treatments, then the Colorfix seemed to take out the "bulk" of the color if you know what I mean?

With it though, I'm not sure exactly what the "step 3" really is. From people's negative reviews, when some people used it it darked their hair back down, so I'm assuming there may be a low vol peroxide in it? I'm not sure though. I've always just not used it. I wash/rinse like mad, then I run straight peroxide over a test strand to make sure all the color molecules are out. Then, I'll do a vinegar rinse to close the cuticle back down. Unless I'm putting a semi on, then I wait and do the vinegar rinse after that.

Yea I might do either. The step 3, from my understanding is just stright up peroxide, vol 10. So idk if that causes darkness, but you mentioned you put some over a test strand. What does that do? Just to see if it darkens you mean? But not for all over? That's good to keep in mind, something I might do if that's the case!  Good idea with the vinegar. I heard somewhere (maybe on this board, I forget!) that vinegar and conditioner are both slightly acidic and both close the cuticle? I wonder if that's true. I'm down with vinegar rinses but my husband hates the smell!

Does decolour remover have the same problem as jobaz where the colour might reoxidise? I heard that bleaching before a colour removing can help it work better, Is that true? Or should I just bleach after colour remover

Bleach doesn't really have any baring on it working better or not, so I'd stay off it. But yes, it does have a risk of reoxidising, but it's less likely as it's supposed to shatter the molecules.

However, as direct dyes don't work in that way, I'm not sure what the real truth is. Some people have reported veggie dyes going dark again after use. I haven't to any real degree with Decolour Remover.

Oh ok. I suppose I could always do another colour remover anyway and bleach as a last resort! Thanks