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(@whaddupimsamm)
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I have been wanting to try this!! But when I saw it it wasn't an oil, it was solid i think. It was by the African hair care products. Is that it? other than that the only other coconut stuff I'm finding in the hair stuff isle is coconut milk which looks like an oil. Is that it? or is argan oil better? My hair is really dry and damaged and there is some breakage from bleaching. I have a re constructor already and I'm looking for another product to help. This sounds great to use with bleaching when my hair is healthy enough.

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Posted : September 17, 2012 2:53 am
(@squishy000)
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Coconut oil is either solid or liquid depending on the surrounding temperature.  It's generally solid at room temperature and the heat from your hands/scalp is enough to liquidise it.

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Posted : September 17, 2012 6:48 am
(@whaddupimsamm)
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so if I buy the jar by the african hair stuff that will work?

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Posted : September 17, 2012 10:14 am
(@squishy000)
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As long as it is 100% coconut oil, yes.

Though you might be able to get it cheaper in an exotic foods section of your local grocery store.

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Posted : September 17, 2012 12:25 pm
(@ModifiedMomma)
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so if I buy the jar by the african hair stuff that will work?

I just answered this question in the other thread... it's likely the stuff in the hair section at Walmart isn't 100% coconut oil.  Check the baking aisle by the other food-grade oils.  You'll want to make sure it's 100% pure coconut oil and not cut with any other oils.

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Posted : September 17, 2012 12:54 pm
(@whaddupimsamm)
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alright thanks you guys. πŸ˜€

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Posted : September 17, 2012 7:48 pm
(@g474xy_g1r7)
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I did a CO treatment for the first time ever before bleaching my roots this week. I microwaved a spoonful for 30sec, used a funnel to put it into a squirt bottle. This helped me apply it to my roots. I used a brush and then a comb to get the oil all over. Slept in it & did my roots the next day.

Love it.  I was initially worried about the sectioning of the oil coated strands being slightly thicker but it all worked out!
Feels & looks great, even brighter ~ πŸ˜‰
Great help, Thank You!.

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Posted : September 21, 2012 8:06 pm
(@HananaTheBanana)
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I'm so glad that I found this post!! I just read through all 14 pages πŸ™‚ I'm planning to bleach my own hair on Monday (I've only ever gone to a salon before but at Β£100 a pop, it's far too much for a poor student!) My hair is currently a light auburn shade due to me needing a summer job and I am completely sick of not having brightly coloured hair! I'll keep you posted on how it works for me πŸ™‚

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Posted : September 22, 2012 8:46 pm
(@KatiePillow)
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I'm so glad that I found this post!! I just read through all 14 pages πŸ™‚ I'm planning to bleach my own hair on Monday (I've only ever gone to a salon before but at Β£100 a pop, it's far too much for a poor student!) My hair is currently a light auburn shade due to me needing a summer job and I am completely sick of not having brightly coloured hair! I'll keep you posted on how it works for me πŸ™‚

Is it box dyed Hannah? If it is you'd be much better starting with a colour remover than doing a bleach bath straight away πŸ™‚

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Posted : September 22, 2012 9:00 pm
(@HananaTheBanana)
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It's not a box dye, it was done at the salon. After talking to my friend, I've decided to use a colour stripper before I bleach it πŸ™‚ I just don't want the dodgy yellow phase between the colour b4 and bleaching... But I can't do the bleaching following Colour B4 even if I slather my hair in the coco-oil before the bleaching?

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Posted : September 22, 2012 9:25 pm
(@ModifiedMomma)
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It's not a box dye, it was done at the salon. After talking to my friend, I've decided to use a colour stripper before I bleach it πŸ™‚ I just don't want the dodgy yellow phase between the colour b4 and bleaching... But I can't do the bleaching following Colour B4 even if I slather my hair in the coco-oil before the bleaching?

"Box dye" is a relative term.  The dye your hairdresser uses at the salon still uses a peroxide developer which is really the question that was being asked (referenced as box dye which is often then perceived as DIY or at home).  If it's not a veggie or semi-permanent dye, then use of a colour remover is advised first as it's gentler and often more effective at removing oxidized colour (dye from a tube that requires a developer to process and leaves a colour deposit behind).

You do have to be patient and wait the recommended time after using a colour remover like ColourB4 or Scott Cornwalls Decolour Remover.  You would have be equally as a patient if you went straight to bleach bathing as you can only safely do one per week without causing permanent damage to you hair.

Depending on how long it's been since your last auburn colour treatment, the colour remover may not pull all of the colour out.  You can use them up to three times in close succession.  Then wait the recommended time (see this thread for more info: http://www.hairdyeforum.com/index.php?topic=3462.0   and this one: http://www.hairdyeforum.com/index.php?topic=6197.0 ) and then you can proceed with bleach bathing to lift the remaining colour gradually.  Be patient.  It's a long process to go from dark dyed hair to a light base for bright colours if you want to have decent, healthy hair left when you're done.

You might also want to consider using some Joico K-pak Deep Penetrating Reconstructor paired with Joico Intense Hydrator to strengthen and nourish the damage from lifting your colour.

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Posted : September 22, 2012 9:38 pm
(@KatiePillow)
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You'll get a yellow stage between bleach bathes if you bleach straight over a box dye (we often use the term box dye to refer to anything which was mixed with a developer, which it would have been.. just most people here do their own hair lol).

If you use a colour remover you need to wash it a few times in between that and bleaching to make sure all the colour molecules are out (colour removers work by shrinking the colour molecules and you rinse them out). The risk with bleaching immediately afterwards is that it can cause the colour molecules to reoxidise and return your hair to a dark colour. It's not so much about damage, that's the main risk. But you should also have dirty hair when bleaching as your natural oils help your scalp (and shampoos contain sls which can aggrivate your scalp making the bleach do more damage than it otherwise would)

It's likely, that once that colour is removed you'll have a lighter base anyway (since dyes with developer lighten the hair as they deposit the colour) so you'd have a much better starting off point.

But people who bleach straight from a perm dyed colour often end up stuck at a ginger or yellow stage with their hair too damaged to get it any further. What crazy colour are you ultimately going for?

^ and what she said lol

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Posted : September 22, 2012 9:43 pm
(@ModifiedMomma)
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^ and what she said lol

LOL, we were posting at the same time!  πŸ˜‰

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Posted : September 22, 2012 9:49 pm
(@HananaTheBanana)
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Thank you for explaining the term "box dye" πŸ™‚ I thought I knew a lot about colouring hair but now I feel like a melon!

My hair was last coloured about 10 weeks ago. I wasn't going to bleach bath my hair and just bleach it to initially lighten it enough to get a red or pink over it to start with. I was then going to proceed with bleach baths to gradually lighten my hair more so I can colour it green or blue without dodgy brown shades.

Would this technique work? Slightly off topic, sorry everyone!!

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Posted : September 22, 2012 9:52 pm
(@KatiePillow)
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I did something similar πŸ™‚ Depending on the pink you only need to get to a yellowy colour, and red is ginger so that sound's like a really good plan.
I did a colour remover, waited a week and did a full bleach and got to a yellowy blonde so I went pink, then faded it using things like harsh shampoos, although people have found decolour remover AMAZING on veggie dyes (what we call semi permanents without a developer) so if you're struggling to remove it go for that. Make sure you go for an easy to remove pink though, because some of them can be incredibly sticky. (crazy colour should be easier to get rid of, and I didn't find hot hot pink too difficult)

http://www.hairdyeforum.com/index.php?topic=6727.0 this is my timeline, I did what you're suggesting with the last two stages, it worked for me πŸ™‚

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Posted : September 22, 2012 9:57 pm
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