Bleach Round Two - bit nervous!

The only way to be certain is to strand test. You can make the bleach bath however strong you need it, I usually match the amount of shampoo to the peroxide, others do the same amount as the overall mix. I would use more peroxide to bleach powder too, somewhere between 1:1 and 1:2 depending on the powder and the consistency. You won't get as much lift if you skimp on the peroxide.

I'll have a play about with strand tests then.  I have plastic measuring spoons as well as the scoop that came with the powder so I can be scientiffic about it  😛
I want to see just how fast this Matrix powder is as well.

Won't be happening for a few days yet though, maybe a week.

Forgot to ask before - is it ok to cover with cling film during the bleaching?

My house isn't warm so I'll have to tuck my hair between layers of clothing/towels for warmth.

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Yeah I almost always use cling film or and old plastic bag to cover my hair while dying.

Thanks Marthakins  🙂  oh yes, plastic bags will be employed later.  I was thinking of using tinfoil but I'd rather be able to see at least a little bit of what my hair's doing while the bleach is on.

I've already got more coconut oil and sacrificial clothes on in anticipation  😀  haha.  One more cup of coffee and I'll start strand tests.  Yay!!

(also YAY I'll have clean hair later  😛 it's pretty damn grotty right now)

Yeah I prefer being able to see what's happening, also cling film vets a nice tight seal around my hair.

Goood luck with your strand testing. (And the wonders of clean hair :p)

Strand test results!!

You can see what I'm starting with - well coconut-oiled Rubine over ginger base - and what I get after 45 minutes in cling film.
Ratios of bleach:peroxide:shampoo are Red clasp 1:1:1, Blue clasp 1:2:2.  Picture taken dry in natural light.

Both have removed the Rubine nicely leaving me with a sort of peachy ginger.  The red mix has gone slightly lighter and cooler but I preferred the runnier texture of the blue mix so I'm going to compromise on 1:2:1

I don't think it's a great deal lighter than the pre-Rubine base, I don't think it'll be quite ready for Aquamarine but we'll see what happens after I've done it all.  Might leave it a couple of weeks and try again.
Certainly not putting Rubine back on it, good lord that stuff sticks!!  😛

The rubine doesn't look too faded, what fading methods have you tried?

A colour remover would probably get the remains of the rubine out on the bleached strands, I think that would reveal quite a nice light blonde. Or you could try to remove the Rubine with one and then try bleaching. I think the remains of the dye are making the strands look darker than they actually are.

The Rubine has barely faded at all!!  If I liked it a bit more I'd be really pleased  😛  lol.  Bear in mind it's soaked in coconut oil in that pic so looks a bit darker than usual but it has really stuck.

I've been using the harshest shampoos I have (Lush bars, clarifying, vosene etc) in the hottest water I can get out of the shower.  I've lathered and left dandruff shampoo on it.  I've hot-oil-soaked it. 
I removed the neon blue I added over the top in one wash with a Lush bar, but this Rubine?  Nope.

Got bleach on the rest now, in a poly bag hanging off my ears cos some of my clingfilm bits fell off  ><  so might be far-from-perfect results.

(edit) .....  aaaaand I just panicked slightly and doubted my timing so I've rinsed too early and got a great big hot mess  *facepalm*  back to ginger but with some weird almost-blue streaks towards the ends?

I'm not doing very well at this.

I'm basically ginger again with a slight peachiness and a few weird muddy blue bits on the tips.
Pics below.  Dry.  Indoor lighting.  I haven't conditioned or anything yet, not quite decided if I'm going to try some dye on it or ... what?

*anyone*

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I think you should try a colour remover over that to try to get some of the rubine that is still in your hair out.

I thought colour removers only worked on permanent dyes, not semis?

They can work on direct dyes, but are unpredictable. Generally they are great on red tones and I have used them successfully on faded Rubine.

Hmmm.  Worth a try I suppose.

Looking at this one, sounds like a lot less rinsing and effort than colour b4.

I personally prefer decolour remover to colour b4, I have found it more effective. The rinsing is important though, I normally just get in the shower so its less boring to carry on rinsing for long enough.